Nature photo for the month

Swamp Rats: Louie Louie

Just so you get the idea.

aphorism

Nazi punks think they're playing punk,
just like pedophiles think they're having sex.

Get Harder

"Punk is dead, long live hardcore"

Inkinen (photographer) / Etholén (writer, editor), 2009. You can see both of these names, for example, on the back cover of "Vitustakos näistä tietää".

What HC felt and looked like in the 80s. Poor bastards trying to make sense of it all.

I'm not sure if I will translate anything yet. Some of this is rather Finnish friendly, if you catch my drift.

Contains ponderings and stories from zine editors, writers, label and band people, punks, artists .....

Reading this I sometimes felt like I can't fully comprehend this hostility towards punk, because, you know, I'm 23 (arf arf and a tee hee). Then again I suppose I've never really listened or paid much attention to the kind of commercialised "punk" they're usually referring to. I think many of the Finnish punk bands in the 70s were quite artificial and unconvincing. No real natural power, just confusion. The unrelentingly alien nature of hardcore is mentioned repeatedly in the texts as a way to underline the difference, and I started to understand their point of view a bit better.

On the whole, there are interesting analyses of the phenomenon, and it's something different after "Parasta lapsille" which centered around bands.

Decadence, Dekadenz, Fuck
This clothes shop was important for the 'looking' part. I remember reading my aunt's old magazines from 83-84 when I was little, and seeing an ad. It felt funny imagining those kinds of lunatics in the countryside scenery.

Läjä Äijälä
Fell in love with the Canadian band Neos. The speed. The passion. At least TK and Rattus were inspired by the North American flannel boys.

Arto Nyberg
I have watched his no-nonsense talk show, but I had no idea. I'm dumbfounded. Who the fuck is he? Taking words right out of my mouth.
Apparently Decontrol blew his mind. Word.

He calls himself a TV clown, but at least he's still all there in the head, unlike those who completely turned coats.

Doomed: ep 91 & Xysma: demos

Talking about contrast. Completely out of nowhere.

D link
This could be also called Haematomania (after the first track), and it's closer to Autopsy.
The last Doomed ep.

X link
One of the most putrid recordings from this country. (A hi-q re-release.) Before this demo, Swarming of the maggots, they were called Repulse (that demo is also included here). Once again it reminds me of the importance of Repulsion, especially for Carcass and the 80s incarnations of Napalm Death. The early Xysma followed faithfully.

Rattus in early 1981

Tell us something about the history of Rattus.

Vellu: "Rattus was founded in fall -78. Jake and Vellu founded it."
Tomppa: "Then I came in. When the boys were playing New Rose, I said shit, I wanna be in the band. Then came that Virkki guy. He forced his way in and started singing even though he wasn't any good at it."
Vellu: "Then we played for a while and after two weeks we had our first gig."

What did Virkki do in this band?

Tomppa: "He tried to sing and bought all the stuff for it..."
Vellu: "And got us banned from the rehearsal place."
Tomppa: "Then in -79 we played at the Finnish rock championship and in Nokia's Spartakiadi and both were shit. Sometime in November we got another guitarist, this shithead kid Pursiainen from Mänttä. He can't play even though he told us he had been playing for 8 years. Clearly not. The next year we played again at the championship and again it was horrible. Virkki was still in the band, but we only had one gig with him after that. We kicked him out in March and Pursiainen was kicked out in June. And in July we recorded the single.

Why did you guys start this band?

Vellu: "When the new wave came, I wanted to start playing."
Tomppa: "Shit, I guess I had nothing else to do. Couldn't keep up the sport boy reputation and didn't feel like playing sports anymore."

What about the influences?

Tomppa: "Well, in the beginning Stranglers, probably Pistols also and maybe Ramones."

The gig situation? How much did you play in the beginning and how much today?

Tomppa: "In the beginning the community arranged gigs for the new stars. But we haven't had any for a year and a half..."
Vellu: "Yeah, it's the other band that gets all of them."

Do you have any clue about music theory?

Tomppa: "Not really. We have this one song in minor, and the bass lines are in major... that's what they say. Usually we go to gigs to have fun, and we don't care much about skills... But I can tune a bass... There are these other obnoxious bands like Liz & The Lizards. Hell, we were playing with them two years ago, and they had no change of getting a record deal, but still they were so great, jesus fucking christ. They were all nice except for the bitch who sang and the drummer. Holy shit, they were real assholes."

What kind of response have you received?

Vellu: "They really like us in Keuruu."
Tomppa: "We also had fun in Mänttä, playing to a disco crowd. They practically fought over whether we were good or not."

Have many people really liked you?

Tomppa: "Well I suppose there are some. At least Vote likes us and the guy from Fuck records. Maybe interviewers like us too. Johanna records didn't like us, and neither did Poko when we sent them tapes at some point."

How do the songs usually come about and who writes them?

Tomppa: "They come about after a short improvisation. Jake usually writes them, but nowadays I'm writing more. He told me the other day he's running out of ideas."

Is writing difficult?

Vellu: "Melodies are easy, but..."
Tomppa: "Words are... You always have to come up with something new. Don't feel like going through the same things over and over again."

The insides of the songs?

Tomppa: "These new ones are all about fucking with some particular people, some groups. The a side of the next single is going to have a song that fucks with hippies [*Right on] and the b side is against the church."

When you're writing stuff, do you ever think about whether someone has done the same thing already?

Vellu: "Sure you're always thinking about that, but then you get irritated when you think about songs like Fucking Disco. That was our disco song, and Ratsia picked up the idea when we were playing with them in Seinäjoki. Then they had this song called Kun Sä Tanssit (when you dance). It was clearly inspired by our song."

(Picture:)
Rattus at MSL studio last summer
l->r Vellu, Jake, Tomppa

Tomppa: "People might think we copied Ratsia."
Vellu: "And Ratsia's LP came out before our EP."
Tomppa: "However we recorded the EP a day before the LP came out, but who the hell knows about that."

Why did you decide to make the record?

Tomppa: "We were always planning it, but Virkki's vocals weren't good enough."
Vellu: "Yeah and Pursiainen's guitar playing... He told us it wouldn't work. We would have to incorporate organs and wind instruments. Luckily he was out. We didn't give him any more info about anything."
Tomppa: "I guess he was still hoping that he could be in the studio."

Did you have fun in the studio?

Tomppa: "You can have fun if you take your time."
Vellu: "But the EP was rushed and there were plenty of mistakes. Straight through the whole thing."
Tomppa: "It took 6 hours, and the single took 4 and a half."

What usually goes on in the studio when you're recording?

Tomppa: "We've never been drunk... First we check the sounds..."
Vellu: "...then we take a piss and read a funny thing from the wall. Then we check the drums."
Tomppa: "Then we play and do another take because the first one was shit."
Vellu: "First the guitar, bass and drums, then second guitar. Then vocals. After that solos. Then we mix it and add some reverb, put it on tape, pay for it and go home."

Who's the band's front man or who do the little girls adore?

Tomppa: "Vellu. Then the ones who are a bit older, 14, adore Jake, and the ones who are 20-60 look at my shaggy beard. I guess we all are in some ways. Of course Jake is the singer and people think he's the rock star. We try to be as democratic as possible, but we have had some power struggles. Jake was a bit like that, but if you tormented with him long enough he forgot about it."

Any fan mail?

Tomppa: "From little girls who live nearby. I've got three letters. And people have wrote us and praised our records."

What do you think about the fashion punks?

Timppa: "They can fuck off... As long as they don't dig us, they can be fashion punks for all I care."

What do you guys think about rockabilly?

Tomppa: "Cramps is the best, then Stray Cats. Fuck, even we are seriously playing Something Else and Rockabilly Rebel. Good shit."

Heavy (rock/metal)?

Tomppa: "Well, since I moved from heavy to this, I guess I'm not going back. Motörhead is ok and AC/DC. Prog... damn stoners!"

Tomppa: "If we're talking about Finnish bands, Lama and Widows are the best ones that have made a record."
Vellu: "And Terveet Kädet."
Tomppa: "In the end they're pretty good, I just wish they had been in a studio. Discharge, Crass, Exploited, Anti-Pasti from England. Good bands from Sweden at moment: Massmedia, Ebba Grön and Attentat. From The US only Dead Kennedys."
Vellu: "Don't forget Ramones."

What's the stylistic direction you're aiming for?

Tomppa: "Currently we're playing aggressive rock and we're going to be a bit more anarchistic in the future, sort of like back to -77. If we change we do it because we want to... But we won't play slow songs, it doesn't make any sense."

Future plans?

Tomppa: "More anarchistic songs, if we don't run out of ideas. We're playing in Multiala at some point..."
Vellu: "A new single and LP If we got the money."

Do you make any profit with Rattus?

Tomppa: "Last time we played live we lost 2 marks."

(Picture:) Here are Teijo (from Mopot) and Rattus (Vellu, Jake, Tomppa) playing Terminal Love by The Boys.

New Rattus songs: Virtasen Mopo (Virtanen's moped) (The song is about Hassisen Kone [band]), I Rememper John Lennon, and Meidän Rukous (our prayer).

Velly and Tomppa were interviewed by Astro and Sylli. Oh yeah and another important guy is the "roadie" Anssi, who sings Rockabilly Rebel.

BALLS + POWER

Cock In My Pocket

Song of the day. Maybe my favourite from the glammier Stooges.

punk ja yäk ja hihhiti-hii

I didn't have to pay for this, so I was willing to take a look (I won't look at the front cover though. Made that mistake and got a rash). I guess I shouldn't be complaining since this thing is not for people like me.

Briard (I really hate ya) - Adorable. You gotta start somewhere.
(Fuck the army) - Andy's rockin on a whole different level. Love that song.

Maho Neitsyt (Ei tippa tapa) - Nice sound quality.. for a change. People go on and on about the "Maho lp". To be honest, I would rather just see an official cd with all their old recordings. Is it really that hard?

Dachau, Marionetti - We've already heard these songs on Hardcore 83. Would've been great if they had chosen some other songs from the demos.

Seems to me they left out the rawest examples of mid-80s hardcore. Yet there are all these relatively unknown new wave / whatever tunes. ....Oh, right. Not for me.

Yes. Exactly.

Gimme gimme gimme

1. All the 70s - 80s Japanese punk and hardcore recordings from the best sources.

2. A good quality compilation with forgotten Finnish bands like Nivelreuma, Virus, Marionetti, DUKK, Järjestyshäiriö, ADL, etc etc etc. Good, bad, average.... just put them on a fucking disc.

3. x. AND LOTS OF IT

ok now i'm just haphazardly throwing shit at you

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=546061
http://www.esnips.com/web/SwinishFalsie

featured Kligge (# #) apparently
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Ydinaseeton + Pohjola = OBVIOUS
quite agreeable newer band
http://www.nightstickjustice.com/ydinaseetonpohjola/
http://www.myspace.com/ydinaseetonpohjola
http://yle.fi/elavaarkisto/?s=s&g=1&ag=4&t=130&a=1196

Translating is mirthful

Kolmas Päivä: Demo (1984)

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look out.......................here it comes..........................................FUCK YOU
That was the biography and the review.

Abactio: Demo (1982)

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Punk from Seinäjoki. Äpärät member. ......... Hard nipples.

There were just too many cocks hanging out.

Stories & memories, new & old

VARAUS
UNICEF + Vastavirta (2005), Unicef in action
TERVEET KÄDET + Kaaos 8 (1983), Kauhun tasapaino 2 (1984), ULO 18 & 21 (1985)
RIISTETYT
RATTUS
MAHO NEITSYT + Pexi in Dekadenz
LAMA
KUOLLEET KUKAT + Kuumat kyyneleet 1 (1985), Toinen vaihtoehto 48 (1993), Lyrics 3 X 7" & CD (They've touched me somehow.)
KANSAN UUTISET
KAAOS + Kaaos 5 (1981), Laama 6 (1982), Rumba 3 (1984), AKY 5 (1994)
DESTRUCKTIONS
BRIARD
BASTARDS

+ Report from Maximum rocknroll 3 (1982)

That is: the main attraction* + something else

FIN | JPEG | PDF | 168 jpegs and 28 pdfs in Finnish.

ENG | JPEG | PDF | 183 jpegs and 39 pdfs in English.

Vote's band photo albums

Funky quotes

- "Arska had to go and he shat on the stage."
- "300-pound guys attack you with lead pipes."
- "I gave him ice fisher's overalls so he could leave the area."
- "Of course he had to cut a small piece off the severed finger and taste human flesh."
- "Fuck, cops are on their way and this guy's moving out."
- "Then I went to Berlin and back then there was East Germany, and the East German customs said you fucking hippie, take all your clothes off, and I said you fucking homo..."
- "I didn't see it because I was fucking."

Three of these are from the same band. Guess which one, he then asked in jest.

And the craziest gutbuster

Rike: "...they (Disorder) were terrible with their out-of-tune guitars."

PS. I'm now an expert on cheap wine brands.
Next up: adhesives and antifreezes.

treat yourself to something nice

Punk ei ole kuollut (1981)

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P.tuotanto/Vote #1

Terveet Kädet (3) - with the early versions of Musta & Transvestiitti
Ido-59 (3), Synti (3) - where TK drummer Peedro used to play
Kaaos (3), Karsta (3), Rutto (3), Rattus (3), Subhumans (2)

Nukketeatteri (3), Huvudtvätt (3), Vapaa Pääsy (3), Ligkapellet (3)

Riistetyt: Tuomiopäivä (1983) & Faff-bey: Emptyhead (1989) & Doesn't feel like laughing (1990)

R link Six songs on this version.

F link Faff-bey is what I call "hi sneaker metal" (you need a thin mustache, a mullet & a denim jacket to complete the picture). But I say this with empathy of course.

M.F.H.F. #3

Nuclear Death: Wake me when I'm dead (1986)
Nuclear Death: Welcome to the minds of the morbid (1987)
Soothsayer: To be a real terrorist (1986)
Incubus [Florida]: Demo (1987)
Cremains: Back from the graves (1987)

I've been having so much punky time, but when someone offered me the Dead record I had a flashback.

Juggling jugulars: For humanity (1994) & Hardcores: Sanansaattajat (1996)

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Sabotaasi: Joulupukin maa (1988)

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"Santa Claus land". We're not innocent, even though we try to bury ourselves in romantic garbage.

Latex cyberpunk satana hell

√

Pinocchio 964

Perfect film.

Desolated meat puppet
floating,
dreading,
spitting blood,
evaporating,
yanked in chains,
plastered in muck,
fizzing,
exploding,
breaking loose.

A pinocchio like me and you.

Death Trip: Death Trip (1989) & Chainsaw Goddess (1990)

Get these, play them,

and take a black bin bag.
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Credit goes to J from England.

Wizard of Hc turns 50.
Congrats.
His versatility is something else.
And the black fancies.

Riistetyt: HC revival (1982-1983)

link 1: Skitsofrenia 2-6: Propaganda "R.B.F." 7-10: Hardcore '83
11-34: Painajainen (Unrel. 1st lp. Includes 2-10)

Mandatory listening.

"Go fuck yourself, nazi bastard"

Ypö-viis: Energia on a ja o (1978) & Outo Elämä: Antero / ANC (1980)

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Good old goodold.
And energy really is the alpha and the omega.
Ypö-viis originally inspired others to release their singles themselves.

Dokumentti todellisuudesta (1989)

"Document of reality". A document of my inner reality right now would be a puddle of blood and shit in a mental institute. But enough about that. No, I'm fine. It's just these nerves. And the internet connection is fucked.

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A (subhuman finns)
Yup, Sabotaasi, Euthanasia, Mafia, Akk, Perestroika

B (foreign talents)
Fuck geez, Troublemakers, Powerage, Son of happy, Screaming foetus

FUCKIN HORSE METAL

fäck juu

dumb humour II - MI OLD COMICS

Strips I made almost ten years ago.
(Finnish - English)

MAFIA


PILAANTUNUT PERÄTÄHYSTYS · COLONOSCOPY GONE AWRY


MASKERADIHUVIEN JÄLKEEN · AFTER THE MASQUERADE


HÄNELLE KAIKKI NAURAVAT · HE WHO EVERYONE LAUGHS AT


VESSAYLLÄRI 2 · TOILET SURPRISE 2


UUSI EXTREME-LAJI · NEW EXTREME SPORT


1. TONTTUVOIMAA · ELF POWER
2. BREAK DANSE MACABRE

the way

US hardcore & metal 80s/90s.

Terveyskeskus: Rehearsal '86

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Ratsia: Ratsia & Demo (1979) & 1979 - 1981

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compilation link

Demo is rawer (not just soundwise) and Kassapäät rocks.

kaikkihan me täällä ollaan pieni hetki vaan

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band names

Sort of by request .... or just in case. Click on that if you want to know what ______ means. Not a complete list but it's something.

CMX: Johannes kastaja (1988) & Musiikin ystävälliset kasvot (1991)

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Yrjänä, the bassist/singer, has called himself a literary fanatic who lost his way to a band. I can imagine traditionalistic punk geezers hating every word that comes out of his mouth, but I'm interested. When I was younger, hearing the raging riffs and a voice screaming mostly philoso-mythological lyrics made a deep impact. "Musiikin ystävälliset kasvot" belongs more to the rock category.

could someone please hook me up with............

The Rats: The Rats (1980)

Kaaos: Demo 11-12.11. '83 & Totaalinen kaaos (1982) & Kuolleet Kukat: Isoveli valvoo (1984)

1965-2007

Demo link
Parts of this were released on "Valtio tuhoaa ei rakenna", "So much fun" and "Yalta hi-life".

Totaalinen link
01 - 09: Totaalinen kaaos
10 - 12: Russia bombs Finland
13 - 16: Isoveli valvoo

And those are here... just because.
Kaaos / Svart Aggression (2002)

Positive Negative: Cut the crap...it's time to act (1996) & Positive Negative / Detestation (1997)

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You know who.... Using the old recipe with some new ingredients.

Katastrofialue: Nihilistinen kuolema (1995) & Wind Of Pain: Worldmachine (1999)

KA link WOP link

KA probably at their noisiest. WOP from these two represents the modern sound, and I suppose if you liked "Non ultra descriptica", this will go well with that.

Kansan Uutiset: Suomi orgasmin partaalla (1982 - 1983) & Destrucktions: Vox populi (1983)

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SIKA-LARS TAHDISSA MARS
One of my favourite cd releases. It has remastered demos & lp tracks (which sound a little bit better if you ask me) from Kansan Uutiset, and a couple of compilation tracks & the "Vox populi" from Destrucktions.

Maanalainen Pelastusarmeija: Kaasua (1982)

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MAP. Nice. The style is certainly early 80s. Walde from TK & Kuolema is sitting there at the top.
One of their other songs was on the classic Hardcore '83. The first track here was originally by The Partisans.

Genocide & Sorto: Final path to destruction (1993 / 1983 - 1984)

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It's about time. I have a thing about Sorto. And Rutto. They're the kind of bands that tight-ass professionals would condemn in a heartbeat. These were from Tornio. Sorto drummer played in Genocide who continued as Tuomiopäivän Lapset until the late 90s.

Rytmihäiriö & Amen: The end of evolution is round the corner (1992) & Wind Of Pain: State of brutality (1996)

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Bands that remind me of each other (and Doom, ENT..). Wind Of Pain had Otto, the Rytmihäiriö drummer.

Kolmas Maailma: Reh. '83 & Garbagemen: Demo '85 & Apartheid: Reh. '86

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Kolmas & Apartheid = Loud crude snotfest.

Garbagemen = The Cramps influence. "Call of garbage" says it all.
Hardcore band visited by a 60s lead guitar.

C.N.T.: Mitaleja (1985) & Waasa palaa (1988)

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Metallic gallop by Jartse from Kuolleet Kukat, Piise from Riistetyt....
& Six songs from AKK, Treblinka and Vihan Lapset.

Asocial & Bedrövlerz: How could hardcore be any worse? (1982)

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100. Full circle.

VISA DOM DITT ARSEL

Anti-Cimex in '82

(It's not so much an interview as it is a fucking stamp.)

Here's an interview with Anti-Cimex. They come from Sweden. The interview was made by Steffi. Tomas Jonsson answers the questions.

Steffi: When did you start playing?
T.J: The whole thing started 2 years ago. We did have a different name then (Bohman Brinned), but then we kicked out the drummer and changed the name to the current. After the EP we haven't had a singer or usually it's me who sings.
Steffi: What bands have influenced you?
T.J: It's clear that we're listening to Discharge, Varukers, Partisans, Abw ....
Steffi: How many gigs have you had?
T.J: Two in Skövde, two in Gothenburg and once in Västerås.
Steffi: What do you think about raggars?
T.J: In some places they are good guys and in other FUCK. And they have goddamn ugly cars.
Steffi: What are your songs about?
T.J: They're against nazis. They're about unemployment, war, and all kind of shit.
Steffi: What do you do on your free time?
T.J: We play, drink, fuck and puke.
Steffi: What's your current line-up?
T.J: tomas-vocals · jocke-guitar · charlie-drums · gutting-bass
Steffi: What about your political opinion?
T.J: We are anarchists.
Steffi: How old are you?
T.J: jonsson-18 · jocke-17 · charlie-0 · gutting-15

Vehement 1 (2005)

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Vehement is the description.
Ristisaatto (8) - Sore Throat type of dissonance
Kasapanos (7) - utter lo-fi apeshitting
Sotakoirat (4) - kids doing g.g.allin / primitive death metal thing. Mix that with army frustrations (??)
Kuolema (4) - KUO FUCKING LEMA

Tuomio: Elinkautinen (1989)

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Needs no description = basic Finnish hardcore.

Loose Prick: Mua potkitaan päähän (1979)

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Old and simple = suits me.

I also want to point out Sehr Schnell.

Läjä 3

(18 pages. This is the stuff) -> Onnellisia Kytkentöjä (1988)
Rakastaa ... Ei rakasta ... Rakastaa (1988)
Piru (2000)
Harakiri (2002)
Ars Moriendi (2004)
Sisäinen Kauneus (2005)
Three minute interview video with live clips (2006)
Madot (2007)

Finnish & translated.

Propaganda EP (1981)

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alt. link

Opium, Nato, 013, Aapeli Kissala, Elastic Boredom, Viimeiset Kiusaukset

Raygun: Raygun (1987) & Demo (1985)

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Wild & conquering like early TK. Guess who drew the cover.
Just wait til "auttamaton juoppo" gets inside your head.

Läjä 2

You don't grow to be a pervert, you're born as one. Perkele.

Visual treats, stories, dreams & confessions.

Terveet Kädet (1981)
Veli-Matti "läjä boy" Äijälä (1986)
Kumia Ja Nahkaa (1986)
Mama (1986)
Ahistaa (1989)
Aviohuolia (1989)
Uhka (1989)
X (1990)
Bensaa Suolissa (2000)
Kuolema Kulkee Ja Niittää (2001)
Lähettiläs (2003)
Saattohoito Osa XXX (2003)

All in Finnish
& translated.

Swans: 1982 - 1984

Cop & Young god

Swans & Filth

Creeping chaos distortion meditation.
Definitely influenced old Napalm Death(s) & others.

"Half life" is the real thing (on Cop).

KTMK: 1984 - 1986 & Radiopuhelimet: Sinappia ja ketsuppia (1987)

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Arctic hysteria. Blistering punk. Only for the warped.

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